Clinton Flip Flops 2016-05-08 (Reddit)

08 May 2016

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**On TPP:**

["This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements"](http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2012/11/200565.htm) - 2012

[She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-01-10/how-hillary-clinton-created-a-u-s-business-promotion-machine) - 2013

But wait...

[Hillary Clinton Opposes [...] Trans-Pacific Trade Deal](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/07/hillary-clinton-opposes-obamas-trans-pacific-trade-deal/) - 2015

**On North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)**

[Clinton [praised] corporations for mounting “a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_86747.html) - 1998

[Another source](http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/2007_Dem_Drexel_Free_Trade.htm)

["I think everybody is in favor of free and fair trade. I think NAFTA is proving its worth"](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/25/barack-obama/clinton-has-changed-on-nafta/) - 1996

However

["NAFTA was a mistake"](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/25/barack-obama/clinton-has-changed-on-nafta/) - 2007

**On Colombia Free Trade Agreement**

[Clinton reiterates opposition to Colombia trade pact](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/09/nation/na-penn9) - 2008

Until

[as secretary of state, Clinton was personally lobbying Democratic members of Congress to support the deal](http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-pushes-colombia-free-trade-agreement-latest-email-dump-2326068) - 2011

**On Raising Payroll/Social security Taxes**

["I'm certainly against [...] lift(ing) the cap on the payroll tax"](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271&page=1) - 2008

But wait...

[[Clinton would] be open to a Social Security tax increase](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/12/clinton-is-open-to-raising-social-security-taxes-on-six-figure-earners/) - 2015

**On Assad**

["Many of the members of Congress [...] have said they believe he's a reformer"](http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jun/01/chris-wallace/chris-wallace-hillary-clinton-defended-syrias-assa/) - 2011

Until

["Assad was the principle threat, because his bombarding, and his ruthless behavior toward his own people, was going to create more terrorists](http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/30/hillary-i-had-a-different-strategy-on-syria-when-i-was-secretary-of-state/) - 2015

**On lifting Cuba embargo**

["I’m not ready to vote to lift the embargo."](http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/03/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-cuba-embargo-change-position-did/) - 2000

[Clinton said now is "not the time to consider wholesale or broad changes to our Cuba policy."](http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/03/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-cuba-embargo-change-position-did/) - 2008

However

[Cuba embargo is a "failed policy"](http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/03/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-cuba-embargo-change-position-did/) - 2014

**On the Keystone XL Pipeline**

[Clinton was seen as initially favoring construction of the pipeline](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-finally-comes-out-against-keystone-pipeline) - 2010

Until

["I oppose [the pipeline] because I don’t think, I don’t think it’s in the best interest of what we need to do to combat climate change."](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-finally-comes-out-against-keystone-pipeline) - 2015

**On Deportation of Illegal Immigrants**

[Clinton is "adamantly against illegal immigrants."](http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/05/07/hillary-2003-i-am-you-know-adamantly-against-illegal-immigrants-n1995826) - 2003

But wait...

[She has advocated an immigration policy that would go further [...] to shield some illegal immigrants from deportation](http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-democrats-shift-left-20150522-story.html) - 2015

**On Driver's Licenses for Illegal Immigrants**

[Clinton now Against Licenses for Illegal Immigrants](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/clinton-now-against-licenses-for-illegal-immigrants/?_r=0) - 2007

However

[This time, Hillary Clinton supports giving driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/04/16/this-time-hillary-clinton-supports-giving-drivers-licenses-to-undocumented-immigrants/) - 2015

**On Federal Gun Control**

[Blanket rules set by the federal government on guns "doesn't make sense."](https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/clinton-in-2008-it-doesnt-make-sense-for-federal-government?utm_term=.qr5gKDjxl#.ke1gQw2RM) - 2008

[Another source](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/05/reporter-asks-clinton-about-former-opposition-to-blanket-gun-control-laws-watch-how-she-handles-it/) - 2008

Until

[Clinton proposes using executive action as president to expand background check requirements](https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-push-gun-controls-oregon-shooting-062248840--election.html?ref=gs) - 2015

**On Gun Ownership and Culture**

[Gun ownership, hunting "part of culture. It’s part of a way of life."](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/) - 2008

But wait!

[Clinton said Tuesday that gun culture in the U.S. has become "way out of balance."](http://time.com/89840/hillary-clinton-gun-culture/) - 2014

**On Gay Marriage**

["Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman"](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/) - 2000

[Marriage is "a sacred bond between a man and a woman."](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/) - 2004

[In response to a question about whether marriage should be made legally available to two committed adults of the same sex, Clinton marked that she was "opposed"](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/) - 2007

However

[After leaving her position as secretary of state, she announced her support for same-sex marriage](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/) - 2013

**On Mass Incarceration and Minimum Sentences**

[[Clinton] explicitly attacked then-competitor Senator Barack Obama for being soft on crime. After the Iowa primary, her campaign said Obama's opposition to mandatory minimum prison sentences was an example of his out-of-touch liberalism](http://www.vox.com/2015/4/30/8517525/hillary-obama-sentencing-reform) - 2008

Until

[[Clinton wants to] End the era of mass incarceration, reform mandatory minimum sentences](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/) - 2015

**On the Coal Industry**

["...we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business"](http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/03/13/full-rush-transcript-hillary-clinton-partcnn-tv-one-democratic-presidential-town-hall/) - March, 2016

But wait...

["I’ve been talking about helping coal country for a very long time"](http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/03/no-hillary-did-not-apologize-for-bragging-about-putting-coal-miners-out-of-business/) - May, 2016

[she says she wants to see coal "continued to be sold and continued to be mined."](http://www.weeklystandard.com/clinton-flip-flops-on-coal-now-wants-coal-to-prosper/article/2002208) - May, 2016

**On Her Political Leanings**

["You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/) - September, 2015

However

["I’m A Progressive"](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-progressive_us_561dafabe4b050c6c4a35c32) - October, 2015

**On No Child Left Behind**

[Votes for No Child Left Behind](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/s371) - 2001

Until

[Hillary Clinton talks negatively about NCLB, wants to replace it](http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/16/hillary-clinton-says-exactly-what-teachers-unions-want-to-hear) - 2015

**On Ethanol Mandates**

[Hillary Clinton against ethanol mandates, 'voted against ethanol 17 times'](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/14/hillary-s-big-iowa-flip-flop.html) - 2000 - 2007

But wait!

[Clinton stressed the importance of the corn-based energy product, saying the U.S. needed to work on "limiting our dependence on foreign oil. And we have a perfect example right here [...] with all of the ethanol that’s being produced here."](https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/22/hillary-clintons-leftward-flip-flops/)

**On Flip Flopping**

Some people might say a person's opinion on topics changing throughout the years is understandable. Hindsight can allow for reflection and new knowledge or public opinion can help shape a new position on a topic.

Except that

["I have been very consistent," Clinton said, arguing her unyielding fealty to "the same values and principles" over her entire life.](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-flip-flop-213247) - 2015

Apparently it's possible to flip flop on many, many topics but yet also be consistent and stick to the same values and principles throughout one's life.

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