Doberman single coat

17 December 2018

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Dogs That Have Single Coats

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Some people believe that a mutated dilution gene is involved. Dogs with hip dysplasia should not be bred — so if you're buying a puppy, ask the breeder for proof that the parents have been tested for hip dysplasia and are free of problems. Dobermans are primarily single-coated pooches, although some have a tiny bit of undercoat on the neck. Allele frequencies were tested for significant associations with the dilute phenotype using Fisher's Exact Test.

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Did you know the Doberman exists in 5 different colors? Most people know the Doberman as a black dog with brown markings. This is the most popular and the most often seen hair color. But some people are surprised to find out that the Doberman is also born in other colors. In a healthy dog, it looks shiny and sleek. The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, with a light brownish-red hair coloring. There are different shades of red hair, ranging from a copper tone to a dark chocolate. The color names also vary around the world, Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. Below you see the traditional black and tan Doberman alongside a red Doberman. Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. The fawn Doberman, sometimes called Isabella color is a diluted red. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. The blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman. The color may have a charcoal gray tone, silver or a purple tone. These colors are sometimes discouraged from breeding. They are considered a disqualifying fault in some dog shows. The White Doberman Lastly, we have the rare Doberman with white or light colored cream fur. The White Pinscher came from inbreeding and is considered a partial albino Doberman. The first documented albino Doberman, Sheba, was born on November 10, 1976. White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create the white Dobermans. They can have skin and eye sight problems like photosensitivity. Because of its poor vision and the dog being unsure of its surroundings, this may lead to fear biting. Some countries have banned the breeding of this dog mutation and breeders are encouraged not to purposely breed for this color. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. The white Doberman looks interesting but breeders should avoid introducing these dogs into their bloodlines. Consumers and dog lovers also need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. Although these white Dobermans look beautiful, these dogs should not command higher dog prices. Especially when they may need more medical care. Having said all this, if you do find a white rescue Doberman or a white from a breeder with a good reputation who does health testing, please give them a chance. Not all white Dobermans are problematic and they can still make great companions. It is rarely seen, but an all black Doberman can occur. This is known as a melanistic Doberman. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust markings. Like the white Doberman, they should not be bred. These black Dobermans are not part of the standard for the breed. In a survey on this website, we asked visitors which color was their favorite. I love the comments about the White Dobe and that they have great personalities and temperament and frankly believe that you could have a little different personality from a White Dobe just because of the color I have my flame suit on so let the comments rip. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. I was very intrigued. Everyone that meets him, wants him. As far as someone disposing of a White Dobe, that wrong. It was so horrible, but she was always such a love bug and anyone that met her loved and adored our dobe. I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. I have had a black and tan, and then Coco, our Red. Maybe next might be another color like a Blue. We have tried adopting from rescues, which did not work, as they have issues due to abuse. I had one that absolutely refused to use the try the dog door, and when he attempt to bite me, after multiple treats of encouragement, I just thought, the last thing I could have is having my children bitten. I have a red and a blue they are amazing with my children. We have had dobermans for 20 yrs. The only precaution i would give is that they tend to be very protective over their pack mates my children i never had any bitting issues but a stranger can find then very intimidating. All Dobermans can be gentle with kids if raised the correct way. They are very protective and loyal. I have a male Isabella or fawn that has so much personality. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. He does have a barking problem and absolutely hates the squirrels that tease him. I have owned numerous breeds all of my life and he is by far the smartest , funniest , and loyal dog of them all. I love him to pieces. As an owner of Dobermans for over 40 years, my opinion is that how you raise, socialize and train a Doberman, or any dog, is so much more important than its color. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children many small children as part of their socialization and have done great. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. Children can be unknowingly mean to a dog and a dog does have a right to leave the area or protect itself it it is being abused. I have had three remake black and rust. When my last child was born you would have thought he was her puppy. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. She would come and take my hand gently and lead me to him if he was wet or had soiled his diaper. My friend said she expected to see her carrying him down the hall to me to take care of what ever he might need at the time. She was our next to last Doberman and miss all of them so much. My first Black and Tan female won my mother over after the first day. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. This lasted all day as we sit outside. All my dogs have been indoor dogs so by dark mom was holding the door open for her to go in. My opinion is that all Dobermans are smart gentle protectors. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. I was considering getting a Doberman as a second large breed. But it will be years down the road. I have a mix of Minature Pincher and a West Highland Terrier as well as the German Shepherd. My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin. So let my story short my Dobermans have been great with all ages and protects to the death. I asked why and they said because his owner would take a tazer to the dog and because of that they had to put him down…I was so angry that an innocent dog was treated that way….. Other than that and some skin issues common she is beautiful and healthy. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. The two girls together are amazing. I will say that a lot of white ones end up out there for rescue or adoption. I wish people would not perpetuate poor information. Hi, this is a great post, even after so much time. I recently purchased a melanistic all black doberman from a reputable breeder and in conversation with her about the different colors of dobermans, she said that the cream ones are not albino at all. She has several very healthy cream ones and after having one lab-tested the results came back with no classification of albino whatsoever. I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. Thank you for all your great comments. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. He has never met a stranger and loves kids. His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. Completely gorgeous and I have never seen another like him. Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. He just seems like an old soul with a great sense of humor and there are times when we all know that he is the one training us! With the right training and socializing, any dog can be a perfect fit. There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. He had behavioral problems and absolutely hated men for some reason. He was barking the whole time and immediately started growling at my dad when we walked past his pen. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. They guessed he had been abused by a man before, which is really sad. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. My Granddaughter, bought a red, an American bred. Then she bought a black and rust European bred puppy from a totally different breeder. They had a rainbow litter of 1 black, 2 reds, 1 fawn, and two white twins sadly one of the twins were still born. I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. My pup is a normal 6 month old Dobe, she visits her fawn sis all the time and is happy and healthy. If I was going to go to the beach with her, I have her doggles and sun screen just like I would for my blond haired, blue eyed kids. Too much hate and misinformation going on here. Additional advice to the owners. Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. To avoid serious shock for your pocket — take the pet insurance. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children — take doberman. If you ever get a chance to see a German Bred Doberman, be sure to take a lot of photos and video, then compare it to any Dobe bred in the United States. The difference is obvious at first glance, but on careful study, you will see how much of the original Doberman Pinscher has been deleted from its current U. The two who currently share my life are the most recent of the 11 Doberman Pinschers that have graced my world from my past. I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. Considered an undesirable gene mutation. Today, they are sought after, registered and shown successfully. Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well. None of these 4 dogs, nor the other dozen or so that I briefly met, suffered from Von Willebrands, Wobbles or any other disease, for that matter. In fact, one of these White Doberman Pinschers is a Police Dog. Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. Possibly started to discourage people from breeding with the intentions of producing Whites. But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white….. DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS…. This is a fallacy. A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate them……BUT….. Line-breeding aka Inbreeding , when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed. In my opinion, not a good idea. Because it is a Recessive gene, white would be bred to white to decrease the chances of the Dominant gene from producing. Because Whites are so rare, that makes for a very tiny gene pool. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class I do Not think it would be right to breed with the specific intentions of producing a litter of beautiful White or Cream color Dober-Babies. But, when it does happen…. And it should have the opportunity to be registered with the AKC. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. He was rescued, so his ancestry was unknown. He had a very nice temperament also. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. So quality educated Doberman breeders avoid propagating them. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. And why would you say AKC and purebred dogs are sick anyway? Did AKC refuse to register something you have? Do you happen to know more than they do? I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman. They are not standard. Standards change when there is enough demand by the breeders. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. And I feel this a lot less an acceptable reason than the white ones health issues. The white and the black. Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them. There is no health issues nor do they have behavioral issues, I find it funny when people say they are bad but have never had or seen one in person lol Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. Love the whites I totally agree with Dober mom. I wish people would stop talking trash about them when they have never experienced having one. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. He is of great character and personality. We have watched him self monitor in the sun and while he has skin tags, not one of them has been anything serious or detrimental to him. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole. They are beautiful, rare Dobies. They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream. And they do not carry a trait on the white gene that make them unhealthy. You stand a greater chance of getting a black and rust, from a careless breeder, that carries the dreaded Von Willebrands, Wobbles, etc.. Hi David Acosta, You are right, you do have to be a bit careful with White Dobes getting too much sun. As with any Nordic human being, we know that the less color pigment in our skin, the more susceptible we are to the harmful ultra-violet sun rays. All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring. So, Steele gets a bit of sun block on his nose. What the people have a problem with…. This is a fallacy. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe. You are very fortunate to have been blessed with your Dober-pal. They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. Every bit as PERFECT as any other color expression of our beloved Doberman Pinschers. What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home. Responsible breeders produce healthy dogs with desirable traits that in many cases either ensure a valuable services or facilitate ownership for people who might not otherwise be able to live with a dog. Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding. Many European countries have all but eliminated unwanted and stray dogs by cracking down on the behaviors that produce them. My uncle was swept up in the trend 13 years ago and paid twice the money when he adopted a white doberman. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? That is the only reason. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. So, speak up when you know what you are talking about. If they got a bad white then it was from a person that did not care about the health and was possibly inbreeding. That will cause many health issues. My whites have never had an issue and are no different than any other color. They are just as loving as any other color. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. A good breeder breeding for health in the whites is going to produce good whites. My first ones never had a health issue up till the day they passed peacefully in there sleep. Please do not spay or neuter your pets. If your were truly responsible with your pets this would not even be necessary. Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. Being sent to an abusive or unstable home 2. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Some people want purebred dogs from a RELIABLE source. Animal shelters are not a reliable source. Most dogs in shelters are… Mutt dogs. And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total only one of my mutts came from the pound. I got her when I was two years of age and she just recently died. I am now 16 I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. It is also far easier to know the temperament and shape such when purchasing a pure pup. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. For some dogs, like those who were abused to the point of retched temperament, putting them to sleep in a shelter is better than forcing it to live in fear or possibly putting you or your loved ones in danger due its unpredictable nature. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. I currently have two dogs: a purebred red nose pitbull male and a chocolate brindle female pit lab mix. The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. He is not fixed, and he is very unagressive accept to male dogs who barge into his territory. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. She was only one year old when we rescued her from death row and despite persistent training, she is still very very stupid. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. She is also not fixed. Choose what works for YOU. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. How ignorant is this. Have you ever seen a female dog get cervical cancer?? You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? If the shoe fits You are wrong, recent, proper scientific research is showing the opposite: Dogs neutered or spayed at any age were at significantly increased risk for developing mast cell cancer, lymphoma, all other cancers, all cancers combined, and fear of storms, compared with intact dogs. Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs. When it came to thunderstorm phobia, all neutered or spayed Vizslas were at greater risk than intact Vizslas, regardless of age at neutering. The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms. Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3. Spayed females had nine times higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma compared to intact females, regardless of when spaying was performed, however, no difference in incidence of this type of cancer was found for neutered vs. Neutered and spayed dogs had 4. Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. Spayed females had 6. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering we have no choice when getting a rescue because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY. Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding. Your right about euthanasia. People who are disruptive and have bad temperaments should be euthanized too. Never give anyone or any animal a second chance. Where to begin… Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked… I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems…. Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color… took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-. If I did nothing he would have lost his left eye… also there were only 3 dog ophthalmologists in the state of SC and had to subsequently go to Charleston, SC for his therapy to try and save his eye! Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors 6 in total! So there you have it! I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! My advice would be to first: find out if the pooch you might get has been registered as the dreaded WZ and if so… RUN! She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. This is classic snobbery! My white may squint in the sun but so do I! I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy. This gos for cats, dogs, horses, pigs and any thing else. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans — presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line — say, deafness or blindness — then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here. The issue with white Dobermans is that all white Dobermans are severely inbred. When the very first white Dobermans were discovered due to a mutation, they would breed brother and sister white Dobermans together to make more white Dobermans. I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders. I know that means he will have some of the albino gene in him but is this going to cause any health issues? Three years ago I had the same concern. I purchased a red puppy whose dad is red and mom is white. He is a wonderful family dog.. Other than that he is in very good health. His temperament is exceptional. I take hm almost everywhere that I can and receive compliments on his look and temperament too. He is very smart and attentive. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. Take your pup home and love it. Your comment is awaiting moderation. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans — presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line — say, deafness or blindness — then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. We rescued our white dobie. By far, my white girl is the healthiest of all of them, and has the thickest, most beautiful coat of all of them too. Having nearly 50 years experience with this breed, the one thing to keep in mind is there are known issues which even many who have absolute whites are not aware of and have no understanding of why their dog behaves or reacts certain way. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. The environment is everything. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. But you could try avoiding excessive exposure to direct sun, if you have to take them out, incorporate the use of sunglasses as a medical need, rather than an occasional accessory feature element of having the dog look cool. It has been what most often leads to fear biting which is not as prevalent in other colors. Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh? Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. Although, inbreeding would explain your human shortcomings. Religious bashing is rude. All dogs are subject to health problems, purebreds more so. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. And humans are an inbred species wether or not you believe the principalities of Christianity. Although, that book does contradict itself in so many ways… I digress. All of this snobbery over an inbred animal is simply ridiculous. White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. You, however, do sound very stupid and childish by 1. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. Your comment is awaiting moderation. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans — presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. If there are genetic problems in a particular line — say, deafness or blindness — then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. How sad and pitiful are you? I have a beautiful,sweet WHITE dobie who will be five this year. I had a red dobie for 13 years…my white is no different…no added health issues. She has the dobie markings…just two different colors of cream. I agree that the albino is in her gene pool…but, she is NOT an albino. She is smart and is trained well with a good disposition. She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever. Black and Tan have always been what most people think about…but, reds,fawns,blues etc…have made there way into common breeding…why not whites? I think some people have developed an absurd bias. Love your dog and I will Love mine! Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. So there you have it. Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. I have seen black people and babies with rickets legs bend. The white skin is a mutation which occurred most likely to increase absorption off vitamin D in northern countries which is where the white races evolved. They have even discovered that Neanderthals had red hair and blue eyes. That is thousands of years ago and they lived in northern Europe and into Russia. So learn more before spouting off. And by the way dogs are not people. I am 66 years old, and am on my 5th Doberman…Perhaps my last and it is unthinkable for me not to not have one. Writer, have you never seen a Chihuahua? Yes humans manipulate genetics for their entertainment at times, and at times they are guided through intelligence and a divergence from the norm that forms that which has given us the diversity in all living things, the mind expanding wild and exhilarating roller coaster ride of explosive evolution. I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. It does that to almost everybody. You are not special. You are the product of mating genetics just as much as a white or silver Doberman or two humans of any color some better adapted than others awhile, but then things change because a male had an erection and a female accommodated it by choice or force. That is a serious offer, and transport too. Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility. You should come to Alaska, Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs. I have served in jails, as an assistant in two State Senates, as a contender in the ring with men of all colors and of determined heart, many long walks and talks. Come North of Canada. Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color more to your liking. Hope you will sell me your dog. Get yourself another color. I am honored to read your story. You sound like you have a deep love for the breed. Would like to tell you my story. We lost 3 German shepherds in 11 months, 2 with in 48 hours of one another. All due to old age band sickness. The youngest was 13. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. He rescued us just as much as we rescued him. Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. He was badly abused so we know its going to be a long road. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. Thank you for reading our story. Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. Give your head a shake. Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues. Laura you should be VERY CONCERNED! ALBINOS which there is scientific proof that they are in fact albinos are always from back yard breeders. They are done with little to no health testing as well as little to no titling. That in no way is improving the breed. Do not let smooth talking greeders convince you. A well bred doberman which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is will be way healthier than an albino. You have two dog, who has one black allel and one white. The white one is hidden if there is a black. But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents: 1. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. The pure ignorance and arrogance in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. Is the concept of good breeding practices really so difficult to comprehend? Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. You all claim to care so much about these dogs but yet you obviously put no effort into educating yourselves about them and how maintaining a healthy vibrate breed standard is accomplished. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. All dogs no matter what breed should be spayed bottom line. The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. If you were any better you wouldnt be breeding dobermans and adding to the unwanted masses of dogs in shelters you would be adopting and careing for the dogs already here. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. It is very cruel to spay or neuter pets. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. Shepherds are excellent at herding, which is their purpose. Pit bulls are amazing at guarding homes, mostly children, and they were bred to be nanny dogs. Mutt dogs shelter dogs make better pets for the simple fact that they are not typically bred for a specific purpose and this gives them depending on the mix of breeds wonderful personalities and surprising qualities. However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. Every pedigree dog has been interbred at its early stage in history to obtain the desired looks etc that are required from it. What is so different with these? Also, what about the numerous pedigrees out there that suffer from various ailments i. One day, the gene pool might be sufficiently large enough to breed-out any unwanted traits from the initial in-breeding…. The AKC does register white albino dobermans. The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. Listed as white only because albino is not a color. These dogs were never tracked nor were their litters. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. She is simply the first accepted by the AKC that can be tracked this way. I have one too rescue. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. More educated people know about this so spread the word. Their nose is pink usually and skin. So they are very susceptible to sunburn, vision problems. They are NOT a dog you can put out in the backyard and ignore. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. I love that they require not coat clipping. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Ear cropping is optional, however I like the appearance of the cut ears, it is illegal to cut the Dobermans ears in some European countries. It is an albino full of health problems and should never be bred. It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. Take it from someone who found out the hard way. To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. She used a Shaklee product called Basic H diluted in water. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. She said it worked well. Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. PLEASE do research before you try to spout nonsense. All white or mostly white dogs with short hair and pink or light colored skin are more prone to sun burn and skin cancer, this includes boxers, pit bulls, and terriers, which all can be solid white without albinism. Most of the diseases and illnesses recorded in white dobes are nearly constant in other breeds of dogs, regardless of coloration. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. Study and actually thoroughly read what you find. All of which are not albinoid. Once more, white tigers come to mind. I took four semesters in genetic based studies just for shiggles; this stuff is easy to understand if you just READ. A friggin moron would say their eyes are just like ours with normal sun sensitivity, she squints so bad in the sunlight, it looks painful. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. My fawn does have skin allergies, but we are able to keep it under control, with no hair loss and his coat is shiny. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. I have a dog, so I should breed? And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. I own a blue doberman. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer. WHOMEVER WROTE OF THE WHITE DOBERMAN COLOR IS VERY BADLY INFORMED!!! I NO LONGER HAVE A WHITS DOBIE LIVING BUT WILL HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER WITH THE COATS THAN MOST DILUTE COLORS I HAVE EVER OWNED. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! THEY WERE GORGEOUS DOGS WITH A UNIQUE COLOR FOUND IN A RECESSIVE GENE! NEVER EVER DID I SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE WHITE DOGS I CAME ACROSS! Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does… I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white… Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property… I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. I can honestly say even thou pitbulls have a bad rep I have no problems with the pitbulls now the dobies I have a major problems with…her dobie attacks my cat and had my kid by the throat I know not all dobies are this way and I still love all dogs but if she was to have a white dobie that was inbreed somehow it highers the risk for innocent people to get hurt… I agree with people who say its not the dogs fault its the owner cause it is but I do not agree with the whole thing that if God made it it should be here God did not tell someone to make inbreed dobies. So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet. Reading through all these comments. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. We have beautiful, healthy dogs. We have never had a blind, or deaf puppy. All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. The whites are AKC. Which at this point is all it is. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. People like you need to be shot. That is most definitely venom and passion. Realistically, none of this makes a difference. Any of my sickly pooches see the vet often and my healthy ones visit the vet twice a year for check ups and boosters. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. This will continue to happen regardless of how many people are advocates for or against a particular trait. What would actually be beneficial is if all of the passionate people that felt the need to express their explosive opinions on this article actually got together and tried to make an argument collectively to have the dobermans removed from the aggressive dog lists that affect housing. Perhaps if people quit trying to stop what every one is doing and started promoting responsible pet ownership, first and foremost, maybe more people would be able to enjoy the breed. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. People like you need to be shot. It disgusts me deeply. I am living with a little companion that is pure bred, that should be POOR BREAD! Ok to all the white haters DO YOUR RESEARCH! Whites have been around for a very long time! The only reason you didnt see them until recently was because breeders culled them drowned them or broke their necks as soon as they were born. You people that are for that are disgusting and as for the health problems duh people watch your breeders inbred dogs do have health problems no matter what the color and as for the dpca they only have bad things to say about the whites because they are disgusting and kill the whites to i have done extensive research as far as even going thru old records registrations and clippings they descended from greyhounds as well as multiple other breeds do your research before you say people are disgusting for breeding whites you are disgusting for helping in the bad rap they get and in getting killed at birth for it none of you are true dog lovers Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella fawn and rust Dobermans. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. With the AKC you will know if the doberman has the possibility of having the recessive trait due to the Z attached to the end of the registration number. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. So champions and show winner puppies will cost more than you pet quality doberman. So if you go by that logic albinos are free since it cant even be showed at competitions. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to feed her?? She starts her puppy training tonight! It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs — you are an idiot. So what if it was, so what if all breeds came about that way? For centuries man has made MANY, MANY dog breeds, and so what if they were interbred? WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones — YOU ARE A DISGRACE. I am not intowhite vs. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. But let us think about this line breeding. In the begining there was only adam and eve….. I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should…. Yes i agree dont breed for a color but i do want a white but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. No i dont want a dog that has temper problems but i like the varitiey of colors. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Thanks i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow? Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. I am proud to say I own a white doberman male one of the best i have ever had as a companion I also have kids and he thinks he is one of them. He has had no health problems very easy trained. As far as the akc lots of dogs that ar registered with them now did not start out with them they accept new breeds all the time. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A. I have had alot of dobermans over the years all colors the color does not make the dog what makes the dog is how you raise it train it love it and socialize them. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself. Some people are better at this than others and some dogs regardless of breed are easier to train than others. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. As far as going from a one person house to a family environment this is doable if the dog is socialized around children. This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Use it or loose it. If you regularly have visitors over to the house, this should do. Hope this helps with your decision making. About 15 yrs ago when I still lived in the US Virginia I was introduced to a breeder of white Dobes. He claimed because of the blue eyes that they were not albinos and had a fair amount of references from happy owners who claimed they had no uncommon problems. HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. I would not buy one and encourage their breeding. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. Not only is the white Doberman not albino, but ALL health problems that have been found in white dobermans can be found in other colors as well except for skin sensitivity which is found in all short haired white dogs. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed. I love my dobes the way they are… I stick to breed standard, so as not to change the breed, and possibly further the health problems so many have…. What does it matter what colour a dog is. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. I have a Blue doberman, white doberman and Black and Tan Doberman and I think the white and blue are better dogs then the black and tan. Albinism is a congenital disorder characterized by the complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. However, there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic animal appear red or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present. Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes. Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. But most of them will. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. Anyone who wants to buy an albino doberman, please visit the Doberman Pincher Club of America and read on the Albino Doberman. The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. The Albino doberman is NOT a WHITE doberman. There is no such thing as a white doberman. If you have an Albino you should love it like you would any dog. However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. White dobermans came from 1 dog…I repeat…1 dog…whos children were repeatedly bred back to her until more were produced. Bottom line…its irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. Its not fair to the animals first and foremost. Second its not fair to the unknowing animal lover out there who ends up with said unhealthy animal. Dobermans are beautiful…proud…noble…intelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give them…and breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them. Shame on anyone who does. Have some bad news for people that are upset about white dobies being the result of inbreeding. Brace yerselves for it… ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. Take for example the Bullmastiff. Today an incredibly regal and majestic dog. They tried the English Mastiff; Too passive: poachers got away. They tried the Bulldogge the original, not the chunky lil chap with respiratory problems that people are ga-ga over today ; Too vicious: tore the poachers to shreds before they could hang them as an example. They interbred the two and then bred the offspring for several generations, I might add and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. That is why the AKC registers them albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful. Of course, as is the case with ANY short haired whit dog, there are limitatipns to sun exposure, much the same as with fair-haired humans-They both sunburn easily. In the next 15 to 20 years, folks will be bucked off of their high-horses, and the Z designation will be dropped in the AKC registration, and people will be free to love these animals as they should and not revile. Brian For General information: The white coloring of a Doberman IS the result of a genetic mutation. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. From what i have learned over the years, and from my families history with dobermans, the coloring can be an issue. It is not accepted by AKC for show though the dog can still be registered and bred- although this practice is frowned upon Although labeling the dogs albino or even partial is a common misunderstanding. The genetic mutation that occurs to create the white coat is not the same of that that occurs in albino dogs. There is alot of controversy on this subject. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. The white puppies are not a MUTATION GENE that has never been proven and is a lie. The white doberman I kept has never had any health problems in the four years I have owned her. The vet told me the breeders usually put the white puppies to sleep and any animal lover would not do such a thing. The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. If white dobermans were not meant to exist God would not have produced them. The white doberman is obedient and beautiful also good with my children. She has always lived inside out of the sun. People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong. The breeding of the albino Doberman is disgusting and anyone who supports this interbreeding is also disgusting! And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. I am a veterinary nurse and kennel club registered Doberman breeder in the UK. The dogs are victim to bad breeding which is upsetting and should be stopped. Hello to all, my family and myself have bred and raised Dobermans for over 40 years. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. White dobermans are actually light cream main colored with white markings. They do have blue eyes and excellent eye sight. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. She has had no health problems and we will be breeding her. I recommend anyone buying a White Doberman to search for AKC registered dogs. I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino. A horse with partial albinism has a cream-coloured coat, white mane and tail and blue eyes. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. If the horse has only one gene, it makes the underlying colour paler. A red also called sorrel or chestnt horse becomes pale gold also called palomino or isobella. I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. Ie, If a black dog has one partial ablbinism gene, it becomes blue. If it has two, it bcomes white. If it has two, it becomes white. What do the breeders think? Personally I work long shifts and what works for me is that I have two dobes to keep each other company. Kongs with peanut butter are great too, but these only last so long. Hope this helps you decide. My name is nick. Regarding the albinism debate and eye color: albinism can be partial in mammals and also birds, even wild ones , and can come from various mutations in the genome. The animal is still considered an albino, however, because it carries an albinistic mutation. Sometimes the mutation is harmful, sometimes it is not. Siamese cats are a classic example of a harmless albino mutation; they are genetically albino, but the mutation only affects the hair, and it is temperature-dependent. The mutation producing the albino color only functions at high temperature, hence the hair close to the body where temps are warm is albino, and the hair at the cooler extremities ears, face, tail reverts to the default color of the cat usually the classic dark color, but sometimes orange, etc. If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. Spontaneous albino mutations can potentially occur in any mammal i. I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. He is very gentle and extremely good with children. Not only has he got sensitive skin, he has stomach problems as well. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. But health problems or no, like I said he is my baby, I love him sooo much and I wouldnt trade him for the world. Even if he is expensive to keep healthy. Sarah: I have to agree, albinos have red eyes not blue…so that kind of confuses me Only on this subject because I wanted a little bit of advise before getting a white Doberman. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts. I found that message not helpful in the least, being a person just looking for information on a dog I like. Treat them right and the will do the same. Maybe you should think about that before commenting on another animal site. Thanks, Marie RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. They cannot be shown and you will NEVER EVER find a Champion Albino Doberman. There is a problem with the white dobe. It is born out of inbreeding. Ppl should not be breeding these animals. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. They have KNOWN health issues far beyond the regular dobe. If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. As for good foods there are so many nowadays. I use Innova Red Meat food for my dog and healthy ppl food and he is healthy as a horse.
The hairs will likely be civil and straight, and some undercoat may be present. While the dog is at rest, doberman single coat to heel is perpendicular to the ground. Your careful weekly exam will help you spot potential health problems early. Cappy became the first K-9 casualty, 23 July, when he was solo wounded by a Japanese grenade. Eyes almond shaped, moderately deep set, with vigorous, energetic expression. After a conversation with a veterinary dermatologist, I now believe that a 75 to 80 pound blue Doberman should get enough fish body oils to provide up to 1. As with every gusto, you should always teach children how to approach and touch dogs, and always supervise any interactions between dogs and young children to prevent any biting or ear or tail pulling on the part of either party.

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